{"id":3843,"date":"2020-02-20T09:00:14","date_gmt":"2020-02-20T08:00:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/forfulgtekristne.dk\/2020\/02\/20\/interview-nordkoreanske-kristne-forbereder-sig-paa-tortur\/"},"modified":"2024-04-17T11:21:18","modified_gmt":"2024-04-17T09:21:18","slug":"interview-north-korean-christians-prepare-for-torture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/forfulgtekristne.dk\/en\/2020\/02\/20\/interview-nordkoreanske-kristne-forbereder-sig-paa-tortur\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview: North Korean Christians prepare for torture"},"content":{"rendered":"<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-3843-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/forfulgtekristne.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/nk-kristne-forbereder-sig-pa-tortur-mkh.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/forfulgtekristne.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/nk-kristne-forbereder-sig-pa-tortur-mkh.mp3\">https:\/\/forfulgtekristne.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/nk-kristne-forbereder-sig-pa-tortur-mkh.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Several situations from a recent trip to Asia with Hans-Henrik Johansen, Vice-President of the Danish European Mission, were straight out of a spy story. We met with our contacts regarding North Korea, who were staying in different hotels, so the connection between them was not obvious. And the most experienced of our contacts, who has been helping North Korean Christians for more than 30 years, made sure we were not being watched before he answered my questions. <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">How do North Korean Christians meet?<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">- Typically, they meet in small groups, not at a fixed time and place, so the authorities cannot uncover a pattern of meeting activity. Sometimes they eat together. The numbers are so many<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> that can meet in a room. No one gets suspicious when they meet with a natural and legitimate reason.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">How do North Korean Christians experience<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> that God is close to them and gives<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> the<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> power under the extreme oppression?<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">- Although there are many clinics<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> they lack medicine, so the sick can often only be diagnosed, but not always treated. There are examples of poor patients being left to their own devices and dying.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Christians come together and pray for healing, even for incurable diseases like cancer. We hear about a thousand<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">is<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> of miracles. In a provincial hospital we have a Christian doctor who can legally visit people in their homes. We continue<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> with<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> to send medication for the doctor to use <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">the one for natural healing<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">. Non-Christians ask Christians for help and are touched by the love<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">, the<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> Christians show them, completely<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> Free. Christian witnesses not the first time<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> with non-Christians, but when they have a deep and trusting relationship where they know<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> that non-Christians will not reveal them, they can share their faith. Christians must rely entirely on God's leading and encouragement to<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> When to testify.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/forfulgtekristne.dk\/en\/thank-you-letter-from-the-underground-church-in-north-korea-2\/\">Read also: Thank you letter from the underground church in North Korea\u00a0<\/a> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">How many Christians are there in North Korea?<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">- There is an estimated 300,000 in total<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> 50,000-60,000 of which are in prison camps. Around 50,000 <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Christian <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">is by the authorities <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">been <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">moved from city to country as part of the punishment for being a Christian.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">What percentage of Christians are hh<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">v<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">. poor and upper middle class?\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">- My assessment is that 10% is upper middle class, lives in Pyongyang and is secret<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">t<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> Christians. The rest live in the rest of the country and need outside help. Christians in a desolate province <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">gr<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u00e6<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">d<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">when we sent them rice<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.<\/span> <span data-contrast=\"auto\">D<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">e <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">was deeply moved and cried out: God helped us.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Is it possible that North Korean<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">e<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> Christian<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">e<\/span><\/i><\/b><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> can be happy when they live under this persecution?<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">A contact said to me: Don't pity us - the living God provides for us. Several North Korean Christians say this<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> and their statements are consistent, despite the fact that North Korea is like hell on earth in many ways.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Are there pockets of economic prosperity?<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">- You can see supermarkets in Pyongyang with very expensive goods where ordinary people cannot shop. <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Does every family have a plot of land?<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">- The public food supply has collapsed<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> All families have been given a plot of land where they can grow vegetables. However, the families often lack seeds and fertilizer, and the soil can be dry. They also lack water. Because of the lack of water, many will die next year if it doesn't rain. Therefore, we must pray for rain. This analysis of the drought is cross-checked with multiple sources.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Do some people renounce their Christian faith under torture in prison?<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">- Dem<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> who are holding on are the ones<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> who have persevered. Christians<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> that is discovered<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> are immediately sent to a political prison camp. For the glory of God, they undergo torture and martyrdom. There are only very few<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> who renounce their Christian faith under torture.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">How can Christians stand firm in their faith under torture?<\/span><\/i><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">- I have thousands of letters from leaders in the underground church. In one letter I asked: If Christians are arrested and subjected to horrible torture - how can they <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">then <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">survive? The church leader answered me: We know<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> what we are subjected to. Therefore, firstly, believers prepare for torture in a very practical way. <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">For example<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> Christians are typically hanged with their feet strapped to the ceiling so that blood runs down their bodies. Some Christians are put in small cages, where you sit completely <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">bent together<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">. Some sit on needles where they are stuck. People in churches who know the pain themselves try to help, teach and prepare others as best they can for <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">the <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">torture<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> They will face in prison.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Christians<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> who have been in prison, secondly says that the others should pray for that moment<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> They are tortured. There are testimonies that some Christians do not feel pain during torture. It is as if their spirit and body are separated during torture. There are 7-8 methods of torture<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">,<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> authorities typically use against Christians.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Thirdly, Christians teach <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">B<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">the Bible by heart so they can always remember the verses. I've met three leaders in the underground church who knew large parts of the <\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">B<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">the Bible by heart, concludes our<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\">It<\/span><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> Contact.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:257}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Thank you to everyone who prays for the persecuted North Korean Christians.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:259}\"><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"payment-pre-wrapper\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"details\">Support North Korea: Medicine and food for Christians and others in need<\/h3>\r\n\t\t\t\t\t<form id=\"fundraising-pre\" action=\"\/en\/give-help\/\" method=\"get\" class=\"form-inline payment-pre\" data-trp-original-action=\"\/giv-hjaelp\/\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<input type=\"hidden\" name=\"pre_project\" value=\"253\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"form-group form-amount\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<input type=\"number\" value=\"\" name=\"pre_amount\" autocomplete=\"off\" placeholder=\"Amount in USD\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"form-group form-btn\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<input type=\"submit\" class=\"btn btn-donate\" id=\"stoet_projekt_embedded\" value=\"Support\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t\t\t<input type=\"hidden\" name=\"trp-form-language\" value=\"en\"\/><\/form>\r\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>North Korean Christians who are discovered are sent to a political prison camp where they are subjected to the 7-8 torture methods the authorities use against Christians.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":3844,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[101],"tags":[],"gamle_kategorier":[],"land":[81],"class_list":["post-3843","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-nodhjaelp-forfulgte-kristne","land-nordkorea","infinite-scroll-item","generate-columns","tablet-grid-50","mobile-grid-100","grid-parent","grid-33"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Forfulgte nordkoreanske kristne forbedreder sig p\u00e5 tortur | Dansk Europamission<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Kristne i Nordkorea forbedreder sig p\u00e5 at blive tortureret for deres tro. 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